Salut à tous !

Le titre est assez explicite, j'aimerais obtenir plus d'informations sur les sous-types du MBTI. Parce qu'il me semble que, contrairement à l'énnéagramme, les sous-types du MBTI restent quand même assez flous. Sur ce forum j'ai quelques fois vu des topics où ça parlait de sous-types avec les 2 lettres les plus prononcées du type chez la personne (pour prendre mon type ESTP, ce pourrait être EP, ST, ET, TP, etc...), d'autres encore où ça parlait d'avoir des tendances d'un autre type, et d'autres encore où ça prennait en compte les fonctions...

Donc bon tout ça reste très flou ! Est-ce que certains sauraient certaines choses à propos des éventuels sous-types du MBTI ?

Sujet intéressant mais déjà rabâché à maintes reprises, il faudrait chercher... Il existe d'ailleurs des sous-types dans le cadre du MBTI Niveau II il me semble.

https://mbti.forumactif.fr/t2492-combinaisons-revelatrices#61831

Salut Goleador.

Y a rien de couramment reconnu pour des "sous-types" MBTI : en fait ce n'est même pas envisagé, hormis par les internautes (quel intérêt objectif à établir un tableau de sous-types ?).
Il y a donc quelques initiatives : par exemple, ce texte sur les variantes d'INFJ, mais c'est encore à un stade très intuitif voir ludique/gadget.
Il reste à se référer aux fonctions, leur niveau de développement, leur empilement/les interactions entre elles, etc ; ça forme des profils 'sur-mesure' ; mais pour en tirer des généralités c'est un chantier obscur.

On peut donc mettre en relief les préférences (=N vs S, les lettres) comme c'est fait sur le topic d'Exil donné par Phaedren.


Il y a également cette façon de colorer chaque préférence :





Tu peux retrouver la même chose sur le Big Five : par exemple tu peux être faible sur "Agreableness", mais dans le détail il y aura un très fort taux en "Altruism" alors que sur le reste c'est minimal/résiduel.

Salut Goleador,

J'ai trouvé un article assez intéressant sur le net à ce sujet (il est en anglais), dont voici le lien :
http://careerassessmentsite.com/tests/myers-briggs-tests/about-the-myers-briggs-type-indicator/

Il est assez long et le début consiste à expliquer les bases du MBTI, c'est à partir de "MBTI Step II" que ça devient intéressant. Donc je reprends et mets ici les paragraphes en lien avec ton type :

Citation :

MBTI EP Attitude: The Adaptable Extravert

Adaptable Extraverts are full of energy, outgoing and social. The main reasoning behind their eagerness to engage with the outside world can be attributed to their dominant extraverted perceiving function. They also have an easier time trusting the outside world than other attitude types.

The Adaptable Extravert tends to approach life from a generally optimistic perspective and is known to be comfortable with embracing new opportunities. When Adaptable Extraverts run into obstacles, they tend to see it as a temporary setback and they are more likely to approach them like a challenge that they are happy to face.

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MBTI ST Mental Function: The Practical and Matter-of-Fact Types

Those with the ST Mental Function primarily rely on their Sensing preference when it comes to the purpose of perception and turn to their Thinking preference for judgment. The main focus of those with the ST Mental Function is centered on facts that they can verify through measuring, counting, touching, weighing, hearing and sensing.

Once those with the ST Mental Function have the data that they need, they proceed with objective analysis that is fueled by their Thinking preference.  This combination of preferences gives them the reputation for being practical and matter-of-fact.

As can be seen in the MBTI Career Report, individuals with the ST Mental function are attracted to job fields that require non-personal analysis of concrete facts and data such as business, law, economics, and accounting.

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MBTI SP Types: The Adaptable Realists

Individuals that are Adaptable Realists extravert their Sensing function. Meaning, these individuals direct their energy outwardly and are known to notice sensory information (sounds, sights, smells, touch and human reactions) with great accuracy and in great detail. Adaptable Realists are known for wanting to experience as much as possible through their senses and do so very vividly.

The effect of the extraverting Sensing function of an Adaptable Realist can be seen in the way that we describe the SP type. The MBTI SP types look to new experiences in the present moment and are known to be curious about the world around them. Adaptable Realists are flexible when situations arise and are adept at observing the immediate situation. Individuals with the SP type also tend to be attracted to work environments that focus on attending to details and facts in their immediate environment. On the other hand, the SP type is comparatively much less interested in any long-range aspects or implications of what they do in a working environment. Adaptable Realists are stimulus-seekers and are at their best when they can experience a large amount of external stimulation.

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MBTI TP Types: The Adaptable Thinkers

Individuals that are Adaptable Thinkers introvert their Thinking function. In other words, Adaptable Thinkers seek to order their internal thoughts through developing a logical system for comprehension. The MBTI TP type can critique reality and identify inconsistencies that other types may overlook through the use of reflective observation. A major goal of the Adaptable Thinker is to create logical order. This is done by developing rational principles that help them understand the world.

We can observe the process of introverting the Thinking function by looking at how we describe Adaptable Thinkers. The MBTI TP type is curious, skeptical, and objective. This is especially true with possibilities and events that the TP types can fit into consistent and orderly frameworks.  Adaptable Thinkers are also known for being excellent trouble-shooters because of their ability to focus in on the essence of problems and then finding logical solutions. When looking for solutions to problems they are unlikely to arbitrarily rule out any possibilities, even if they may seem unlikely to others. Their ability to consider such a broad range of facts and ideas into their decision making process leads them to come to the most accurate conclusion possible.

Other individuals may have trouble following the Adaptive Thinkers logic when they are deeply involved with a project. This can be attributed to the MBTI TP types introverted Thinking. Their internal logic may seem self apparent and they may assume, incorrectly, that it is clear to everyone else as well.

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MBTI ES Types: The Action-Oriented Realists

MBTI Action-Oriented Realists are Extraverts that also have a Sensing preference. They have the reputation of being the most practical of all the types. This preference permeates their work, school and personal lives. Their preferred learning environment includes a focus on material that has useful direct applications in the real world. The Action-Oriented Realist has a very utilitarian perspective of the world, finding great enjoyment from the material world. They have little interest in dealing with how things could be or focusing their energies discussing theories and unproven ideas.

The MBTI ES Type spends a lot of time focusing on experiencing as much of the world as possible. The Action-Oriented Realist comes across as ever confident when dealing with the outside world. They are likely to make an extended effort when they want to have a specific experience or if they want to visit a specific place that they find interesting.

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MBTI ET Types: The Action-Oriented Thinker

MBTI Action-Oriented Thinkers are Extraverts that also have the Thinking preference. They approach life from an objective perspective and they expect a similar approach from others. They like to make things happen in a very logical and analytical way. Others see them as very energetic and active. Competence and being effective is of top priority to the MBTI ET type.

When others around the MBTI ET type begin to doubt themselves, show low self-confidence or hesitate, the Action-Oriented Thinker may show annoyance and lose their patience with the situation. Those with the Feeling preference may see the MBTI ET Type as extensively harsh and unsympathetic.

Merci pour vos réponses ! Donc d'après ce que vous dites les sous-types du MBTI ne sont pas encore du tout définis et c'est un sujet à creuser !

Merci pour le lien et les descriptions Oscar, je me reconnais bien sûr un peu dans tous les sous-types ESTP mais quand même un peu plus dans le EP, pas étonnant puisque je crois bien que ce sont mes 2 lettres les plus prononcées, tandis que mes axes S/N et T/F sont assez équilibrés.

l'impermanence des choses fait que rien n'est jamais totalement défini

Lauterwasser a écrit:

l'impermanence des choses fait que rien n'est jamais totalement défini

Effectivement, très bien dis !

Et j'aime bien ce concept de sous-types avec les 2 lettres les plus prononcées, mais il y a aussi celui proposé par Sherkdinger dans un autre topic, basé sur les fonctions, qui me semble vraiment pas mal !